This way, no matter where a deer stops in your shooting lane, youll know exactly how to aim for a quick, ethical kill. I couldnt find anyone online talking about using it with a crossbow in a manner like a SteadyEddy (meaning resting it on your waist or thigh), so I decided the only way to know for sure was to try one myself. Better to lower the crossbow with your gear rope, get on the ground to recock, then get back in your stand. by M&M Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:13 pm, Post Its a smart system, and Im glad to have finally found it. Thats understandable since they are still getting used to the crossbows operation. The Stalker QD42 features what the company calls Flex Ready Technology, but would it flex/bend enough for me to shoot my crossbow comfortably from a treestand with the base of the rest on my waistline or thigh? Doing this with whitetails at close range was 100 percent silent and effective. For those of you that hunt out of treestands. From a ladder with a tiny platform,the author used a Swagger Stalker QD42 rest to support his crossbow and make an accurate shot on this 2021 Wisconsin whitetail. Of course, that should not be the case. One final tip on tree stand hunting with a crossbow use colored tape or some other method to keep track of the distances to your shooting lanes. Quartering away shots, where the deer is walking away from you at an angle, are also good shots to take. I LOVE Hunting,Fishing, my Excalibur and that thing that makes men weak and starts wars. Join other outdoor enthusiasts who already get great content delivered right to their inbox. Heres what I discovered and its all good! If you will hunt from a ground blind, pop that baby up and shoot out of it when you practice. Models vary widely, but most function much the same way as cocking ropes with hooks that connect to the bowstring on either side of the rail. Lots of lessons here, number one being you must get as high as necessary to keep from spooking incoming deer, but only as high as is required. Stay focused! by phil Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:11 pm, Post I use ladder stands with a built in shooting rail, but I do have one hang on stand with no built in rest. From a treestand height of 15 feet, and planning for shots of 10 to 30 yards, I had the Swaggers legs adjusted to 20 inches, and I could easily aim over that entire range by slightly leaning forward or backward. Do you shoot free hand or use some sort of shooting stick on your lap/ platform? When a deer comes into a crossbow set-up from the wrong direction, the sensible thing to do is wait. The most important thing to pay attention to is form. Thankfully I was wearing a safety harness and was able to strap myself into the stand, because in mid-afternoon "doze mode," I nearly fell out of the thing! Then, place the center of the cocking rope over the back of the crossbow behind the latch. I use a bolt through one side to fix the position and a nail for a peg in the other hole. To beat those deer, I put another stand in a tree quartering to their approach trail, and nailed a nice buck that (honestly!) I don't use a cross bow but my uncle does and he almost got thrown out of his tree. Then set the 3rd stake where you need it for height to serve as your shooting rail and drill through the verticals. I have a Treepod too but I prefer the Primos Unipod as well. Bending over and trying to perform this operation from up high can be dangerous. It adjusts from 14 to 42 inches and can be used as a monopod or bipod. Recocking a crossbow after the shot is where a lot of new crossbow hunters experience a bit of fumbling. In the heat of the moment, its not a difficult thing to do. Perfectly broadside. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. This will rotate your torso so that you can place your non-trigger leg slightly forward. Fire your crossbow while aiming at the bullseye. It also saves your fingers. If your target is farther away, you'll need to aim slightly higher, and if it's closer, slightly lower. Use the back of the seat, tree, etc. Because the SteadyEddy mounts to the crossbows forearm, there are no parts to fall from a treestand. Aside from this difficulty, its even more challenging to hold them steady enough for a good freehand shot. Weve had several friends muff their shots because their limbs whacked against the blind upon release or, worse yet, they sent an arrow through the wall of their blind. Crossbow hunting is an exciting sport for both archery veterans and for those used to hunting only with a rifle. Looks like I epoxied a nylon bushing into the bottom of the uni-pod and then tapped a 1/4-20 thread in it for the countersunk screw. I'm shooting an exocet 200 2216 alum and 150gr. Youre up in your tree stand. Then slide the bolt back until it engages the bowstring. A 30 yard shot from the ground might actually mean you have to shoot for 20 yards when up in a tree stand, depending on the shot angle. I use a primos trigger stick , the mono pod . Do you need to cut shooting lanes to the left or right? Well, the same concept applies if you hunt from an environmental ground blind (thats what I call making a blind from available brush) or an enclosed pop-up-style blind. To keep things quiet, wrap your treestand rails with thin foam and secure with electrical tape. Then simply attach the hooks and turn the crank until the bowstring reaches the latch. You must always ask, "Which stand site will give me the most opportunities with the fewest complications?". More importantly, it may shatter and injure you or someone nearby. by groundpounder Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:43 pm, Post The author didnt use the adapter because his crossbow has a Picatinny rail mounted below the foregrip. A crank is the most mechanically complex way of cocking a crossbow. Yes, the arrow must have a clear downrange path, but thats not all you need to worry about. My advice, just practice and then practice some more. Why Is It So Expensive? This is one of the key advantages of the latest short-axle-width crossbows, such as the Stealth NXT or the Nitro X from TenPoint Crossbow Technologies. I used the open front lock-ons for years and an API bowhunter. By following these stand set-up tips, youll be sure to maximize your chances of success this season. As I teased in this articles subtitle, Ive been searching for a solution to this problem for years. This produces a nice, even arch down range to the target. Although crossbow supports such as bipods and monopods are a huge help in making a steady aim, nothing beats a solid, horizontal rest like you find on many ladder and platform stands. If they won't, I plan to move my stand closer to the action the next day. However, this phenomenon is much less pronounced with crossbows. by wabi Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:39 pm, Post Unless you're a gymnast, good luck. Actually I bought a 2nd base in Cabelas bargain barn for about $4 and I use the 2nd strap that keeps it inline with my shin much easier. And every one of them stares right at that stand, even though it is 20 feet high! Most hunters are well versed in the nuances of tree stand hunting. . Then locate the differently colored (usually white) of the three fletchings. There are 12 windows in my stand, I can cover 360 degrees. Just because you can visually line up on a deer through your blinds window doesnt mean your arrow is high enough to clear the opening. However, this phenomenon is much less pronounced with crossbows. For example, as a right-handed shooter in the sitting position, if I set up a monopod between my feet for shooting straight ahead (12 oclock), theres no way I can adjust it for shooting to my left (9 oclock). Please enable JavaScript to view the comments. As a rule, crossbows dont have crisp, clean triggers like those found on top-notch centerfire rifles, and as a result its difficult to accurately shoot a crossbow freehand. Crossbow hunting is no different than other forms of hunting in that it has its quirks and peculiarities, and youll learn them the longer you play the game. This is a loop at the front of the crossbow where you can put your foot to hold down the crossbow while you pull the bowstring up towards your body. Gravity has a much greater effect on an arrow than some might think. You dont want to be fishing it out of your daypack or untangling draw cords. Whatever you do, shoulder your crossbow while in your blind to check that your arrow will clear the windows. Pop-up blinds have probably interfered with more crossbow shots than any other hunting stand setup. Better to simply remove the sling from your crossbow until its time to move on. As ladderstand mainly all have side bars and optional shooting rest. I bowhunt with a crossbow in Wisconsin and a compound in Minnesota and South Dakota, At times Ill choose my recurve, too. In other words, even though you have a lightning-fast crossbow that can shoot quarters at 60 yards from a stable rest, dont be tempted to play gun hunter with your crossbow. (The monopod isnt attached to my crossbow.). In both cases, you shouldn't bend over or roll your shoulders to look through the scope. Having an effective crossbow rest for use in treestands allows me bowhunt those areas that give me the best chance of success on any given day. I pretty much prefer to stand and shoot free hand. I sit on the rail to shoot behind me. The arrow, of course, flew harmlessly into the distance and the buck well, if a snort could be considered a laugh, he bounded off guffawing to himself until he was out of hearing. Since the pic Ive added some straps via snap fasteners. For more help hunting deer, visit Deer Hunting Tip For Beginners. Its actually a fairly easy mistake to make from a tree stand if youre not used to shooting from elevated positions. First-day stands can often be as low as 10 feet, but if you are hunting out of a season-long location, you might need to go higher, because the deer will begin to come in and actually look up to see if you are there. It weighs only 15 ounces so its significantly lighter than many bipods and tripods. He went to shoot kind of behind him and the limb smacked the tree. I quit tree stand hunting with my crossbow because of the chance of smacking the tree with the limbs when shooting behind the stand. Todd heres some more pics - I can switch it from a knee pod to a stand pod. A cocking rope is the most basic device to help you cock your crossbow. Beyond that, I wait until the deer move into range. Similarly, you should never hold the bolt by covering the tip for the same reason. The deer might come around to where you can shoot it, or it might wander around and disappear. Crossbows can have draw weights up to 200 pounds, meaning cocking them can take the same amount of effort as lifting 200 pounds off the ground. The problem is that one wrong slip and that crossbow can make a terrific clang against those aluminum tubes. Both with my Matrix 380, I was lucky and recovered all three bolts as they were clean pass through heart/lung shots. Had I been any higher I'd have been looking down the backs of the deer as if I were shooting northern pike in Vermont, and those types of spine-only shots are iffy at best with any bow. No more than 7 seconds passed from the time I spotted the buck until my broadhead penetrated his lungs at 15 yards. I might put a rug inside the door. Such panic shots rarely work out in the hunter's favor. Go higher, move the stand to a new location or leave the stand in place as a decoy even consider a ground blind downwind of approaching deer. This means it drops less than the scope is calibrated for. If you don't want to bring your iPad into the bathroom, we can send you a magazine subscription for free! Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, performance, troubleshooting, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Just make sure you have enough limb clearance if you shoot behind or along side you. 2022 Grand View Outdoors All Rights Reserved This isn't something you can do without specific techniques and, in some cases, special devices. The same is true for your sling. New to crossbow this year and I appreciate the above info. I admit carrying it around can be a pain in the butt but it works very well to steady your shot! This, along with the right amount of pressure to shoot, will take some getting used to. Fairly new to crossbow hunting. Weve discussed the importance of clearing twigs and limbs from your treestand shooting zone so they wont interfere with movement or your crossbow limbs. After it was attached to the bottom of my crossbows stock, the QD42 flexed easily and allowed me to place its base on my waistline or thigh while sitting. On my cheap ladders I tie wrap and/or wire wrap 2 grade stakes to the vertical rails and drill a couple holes in a 3rd stake spaced to line up with the verticals. Quality crossbow scopes with drop compensation reticles make short work of getting you on target at known distances, but the key is knowing those distances. JavaScript is disabled. Heres most of mine (even a home made Steady Eddy), I also have a mini bipod and tripod. The Stalker QD42 (Quick Detach) slid easily onto my crossbows Pictanny rail. Tips For Hunting Whitetails When Its Blowing, Best Deer Decoy In 2022 (Whitetail/Rut/Set Up/Time To Use), Hunting Clothes Storage How To Wash And Store Your Gear. The strategies and techniques hunters must employ to utilize these specialized bows to their maximum efficiency often vary radically from those of the standard rifle or compound bow user. What options will you have if your buck comes in from an unanticipated direction? |, Video: Black Bear Attacks Bald Eagles Nest, Video: Tips for Cleaning Walleyes Using an Electric Fillet Knife. Finally, while sitting I could shoot from 8 oclock to 1 oclock. As lethal as arrows are, nothing looks more pathetic than an errant arrow bouncing off vegetation on its way to nowhere. JavaScript is disabled. (I had my head turned the wrong direction as he approached.) I've tried these desperation shots and have had my arrows click and clatter to the feet of the target which, with a snort and a wheeze, bounds away with a nice, big white tail waving goodbye. Stokerized Stasis. Maintaining enough clearance to prevent that from happening drastically reduces my shooting radius. Using a rangefinder, mark the distance from your stand out through your shooting lanes. One of the differences between a compound bow vs crossbowis a crossbow will need to be uncocked after a hunt, if a shot is not fired. To me the most important thing to remember is that I need to mentally "visualize" the arrow's path through the deer in 3-D, and aim to put the arrow through the vital organs (lungs or heart) I want to hit. 100-Year Anniversary Video: Tour the Federal Ammunition Plant. Any ideas that work for you? Quartering toward shots, straight on shots, where the deer is facing you, and rump shots aren't good ideas. To minimize the risks and keep everyone safe, follows these tips: Additionally, you should never dry fire a crossbow. After that it's aim, squeeze and follow through. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Walk Back Tuning A Bow And Arrow Rest Explained. Moderators: Excalibur Marketing Dude, Bill T, Post This is because crossbows are not only long, but also wide, and that limb width will create problems when you try to shoot too far to the right or left that tree trunk and associated branches you forgot about are going to stymie you every time! An adjustable rest like the SteddyEddy crossbow monopod system is an ideal solution since it can be shortened to use while sitting or lengthened for standing shots. All the energy that goes into the bolt is stored in the crossbow string by this action. Clutter is the bane of any hunting stand. What?! Any modern crossbow will perform as designed when shooting from the bench, but things change when you're up a tree in dim light on a rainy afternoon in November. Since you're shooting from above your target, the horizontal distance the bolt travels across the ground is actually shorter than the straight-line distance from the crossbow to the target. If gravity doesnt pull as hard on your crossbow arrow initially, then the arrow doesnt drop and the arc is not as steep as it would have been on flat ground. I plan on using my bog pod tripod that I bought for elk hunting last year in my new tower stand, It worked well with my rifle, I am not worried much about noise, the floor is carpeted. These cranks make cocking your crossbow much easier because, as levers rotating in 360 degrees, they let you do the same amount of work by applying a much smaller force over a much longer distance. Went back to the vertical bow for stand hunting and am saving the crossbow for blind hunting. And if I swing my crossbow to 9 oclock to shoot a close-range whitetail freehand, then what do I do with the monopod currently set up for a 12 oclock shot? The hang-on platform isnt wide enough to move the monopod for the 9 oclock shot. Enter the crossbow, a relatively new tool (not even legal in all states at the moment, though we are gaining ground) that requires special handling on the ground, on the way up to and in the stand, and even while exiting the stand. You'll most likely injure the deer without killing it, or it will take so long to die that you won't be able to find it. Heres how to place stands to your best advantage, to minimize problems. To cock a crossbow by hand, push the stirrup firmly into the ground and stick your foot into it so that your body weight holds down the crossbow. In other words, all the incredible speed and destructive power of a crossbow bolt, you have to produce that yourself with your own muscles by pulling back the bowstring. Shooting a deer can be intimidating compared to a target on the range, but the process is the same. When hunting with a crossbow, Ill shoot only with the aid of a solid rest. How high should you be? A good cure for this is a height-adjustable seat such as the ALPS Stealth Hunter. . As you can see from this article's lead photo, I scored recently on a Wisconsin bow buck and the QD42 allowed me to quickly get on target. There are three main ways to cock a crossbow. Put one foot one top of the other to raise either knee up, and rest elbow on knee. Take heart in the fact that your scouting was right on, except that your best guess was 10 yards off the mark. The clip that is fixed to one leg of the QD42 snaps around the second leg, meaning you can use the rest as a monopod or bipod. As an arrow is released, those limbs will jump forward and extend horizontally. Im mainly talking about loc ons. I was wondering If anyone had any input on point of aim from about 12' to 16' up, if I should expect a major difference lets say on a target that's 20 yds from the base of the tree. Here is how to uncock a crossbow. I dont need a rest that close. It's a lot like cocking your crossbow with your hands, but it gives you a better grip and more leverage. If you sell crossbows in your archery shop, then it makes sense to add the Swagger Stalker QD42 rest to your inventory. The Primos Mono Pod with treestand basegoes up to 5 feet for even high angle shotsis light and easy to maneuver around in tree stands. First, hold the bolt near the tip but make sure that your hand or fingers are not actually covering the tip itself. When you are up to your butt in alligators, it is hard to remember your intent was to drain the swamp. Something to really be careful about. Best of luck to ya. A forum community dedicated to Pennsylvanias hunters and enthusiasts Come join the discussion about trails, licenses, fishing, game laws, styles, reviews, optics, accessories, classifieds, and more! I know some hunters think you don't need to practice with a crossbow- well, they are wrong. "Cocking" is the term for drawing your crossbow, pulling back the string until it catches the trigger latch and remains in place. Hoyt 38 Pro, Hoyt Nitrum 34, Hoyt double xl, Mission Sub-1 Lite, I dont hunt for the sport I hunt for the meat, I use a summit climber, the padded rails act as support for my xbow, works great for me, Ten Point 505 with Oracle X. Deciding which direction to face a tree stand is not always as simple or obvious as "where the deer will come from." Ten Point Havoc with Oracle X. In order to swing my bow throughout this window, I simply repositioned the latched legs a few inches from my left thigh to my right thigh. Place the stirrup against the ground and slide your foot through it so that the crossbow is stable and secure. And of course, if you decide to leave a treestand and hunt from ground, the rest works just as well. Kuiu vs Sitka: The Ultimate Guide to Choosing The Best Clothes, How To Get Deer To Come Out During The Day, Bow Hunting For Beginners The Ultimate Guide To Filling Your Freezer, 26 Deer Hunting Tips For Beginners From The Experts, Deer Stand Placement Strategy and Setup Tips Complete With Diagrams, Top 12 Shed Hunting Tips How To Find Deer Antlers Like A Pro, 20 Scent Control Tips to Make You a Better Deer Hunter, Deer Hunting in the Rain Tips for Making Your Hunt a Success, Types Of Deer Species Facts and Information, Do Deer Chew Cud Digestive System Facts, Deer Sounds The Guide To Understanding Whitetail Communication, amount of creep your particular trigger has. Theyre super-maneuverable in tight quarters, and the narrow limb widths minimize the chance of impacting branches upon release. A crossbow can seem intimidating at first glance, but by following this guide, you can start using one successfully without much hassle. 2022 Archery Business All Rights Reserved If your shot lands low, you have to turn the scope down. With that said, one must practice offhand to get proficient at it. They've got you cornered and, sad to say, they usually win. I know practice is the only sure way to tell but would like to know a little in advance.

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