It's $17 per gallon at Walmart. Otherwise you are just going to waste 4-5 qts of the stuff.but I am not sure I like the idea of putting in a clean filter and then running all the 'dirty' fluid through it. Still trying to figure out how to upload files and pics. '02 Liberty sitting on 35" tires,HP44,RockJock60,and AtlasII t-case. Basically you replace filter, add new fluid. Thanks guys for all of the information. I'll have some time off over Christmas and plan on tackling this . B&M Transmission SuperCoolers are the exact same re-boxed stacked plate cooler, they're even branded the same, and come with the same accessories. No solvents or other chemicals are introduced into the system, and no abnormal pressures are applied like they can be in other methods of flushing. For a few bucks more on a fluid you will keep in for a 100,000 miles, why go cheap? Take your pick. I.E. See module where connects at front cooler. Full synthetic. In general, transmission fluid starts to degrade as temperature rises, and that degradation is said to be cumulative over the life of the fluid. 4th Gen High Performance and Accessories 2010 and Up, 4th Gen Engine and Drivetrain-2010 and Up, 3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (6.7L Only), 3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2007 and up, 3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years, Natl. 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Do you really want to risk the rebuild to a plugged cooler that will damage the new tranny? I will do this for my next change! Advertising - Keep the reddish pinkish color is key. Board index Jeep CRD / E85 / Alternative Fuels Liberty CRDLove that Torque!!! you are wasting time and money replacing that filter, it's only to catch debris if the trans fails, Honda CR-V Owners Club forum, the best hang-out to discuss CVT, Hybrids, trim levels and all things CR-V, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Brakes, Tires, Wheels, Steering & Suspension, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, crvownersclub.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. I'm sure there is better stuff but sometimes you used what you have at hand. High risk here. Then I use 2 just for added insurance. We'll show you a fairly easy way to do a fluid replacement in your driveway without much hassle. Now the fact that he let the engine run for 10 minutes with no fluid in the trans makes me wonder if he damaged his tranny. MaxLife bills itself as a universal / fits-all fluid suitable for use in just about every transmission out there in common use today. He stated that they never pull the pan at any service interval. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm sure this topic has been beat to death (maybe not as much as the "trans cooler bypass" topic) but I couldn't find a thread that showed this particular method. When you are done, install a filter adapter and filter on the return line. I have read your posts, but I am not sure which lines to hook up to for the flush, and how would I get a garden hose to seal on the trans lines? Automatic transmissions were some mysterious slushbox positioned between your engine and transfer case. I just put some garden hose over both lines then pumped a gallon of Walmart Dexron III through the lines and coolers with a hand pump. I was wondering how many here had performed a DIY trans flush and how did you do it? That is exactly how I do mine. If she doesn't come completely clean on the 1st try then the cooler gets replaced. I have done a complete transmission fluid flush three times now (04 4Runner, 09 Accord, 06 4Runner). i just want to use the stock one. And in a rare move, an industry watchdog group called out MaxLife after testing two years ago stating that it didn't meet all the claims on the label. Fast-forward into the modern world where automatic transmissions are now very reliable and commonly in use by four-wheelers. Sorry, should have mentioned the flush. ARB diff covers, Warn bumpers, Warn 9K winch, a couple Hella lights and a WORTHLESS AirRaid CAI. The basic idea is to use the transmission's own internal pump to push fluid out of a disconnected line, and replace with new fluid going into the pan. (Do It Yourself). Be aware that some coolers have a theromstat bypass built in. In other words, the fluid degradation can occur during short exposure to high heat or during longer exposure to moderately high heat. The old fluid does not get circulater through the new filter(s). If anyone could write a step-by-step process, that would be great. The only Honda approved service is a drain and fill 'pan service'. Thanks. That stuff is a really good solvent and leaves no residue as it completely evaporates. I have not changed by my transmission fluid and filters ever and as I approach 100,000 miles I thought I better change out all of the ATF fluid. How do I flush transmission cooler lines and trans cooler??? I think that for your purpose 1 can is plenty. Talk about the 12V engine and drivetrain here. Archive - What I like about the magnefine filter is the level of filtration it offers along with the magnet. Once it is all new fluid I do a drain and fill once a year or every 15-20k miles. Mud - Have you used Kooler Kleen, Transflush or both? The dealer has a machine to clean it out. When I go to replace it, i simply pop the 5 plastic rivets, remove the grill and loosen 2 hose clamps. We finished the work in just a couple of hours with common tools and a few supplies that we used to drain and catch the old fluid. fluid. Privacy Statement - A forum community dedicated to all jeep owners and enthusiasts. Total cost was about $127 for 15 litres of ATF + 4 and Fram filters/gasket. The Jeep gets driven hard, wheeled a ton, turning 34's with 4.10's on very long steep roads you get my point. there is a repair kit to rebuild. Buy the right stuff. If I had a second gen sienna I would try it via a drain and fill first. It will usually make it worse. The following errors occurred with your submission, LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion, 2-Speed thru 10-Speed GM Autos | Converters | Shift Kits, 2yr Wrty Trans/conv combos. When doing any tranny work I always flush out the cooler. Open the line going out of your tranny to the cooler and place in drip pan. "If" you haven't gotten the tranny overheated just a thorough "drain via the pan", filter and fluid is all you need. It's been a while. The auto lock kicked in on mine and I stood there for a second watching the lifeblood running out of my trans with no way to shut it off. To answer your actual question: The Gen5's CVT does not have a cooler in the radiator; the cooler is bolted directly to the transmission housing, and does not have CVT fluid lines you can tap. $1170 Refresh after wrty, No Core , Dyno test. Change ATF every 15-20k and yes, it does shift crisper every time its change. Location: North Carolina or Kentucky. Also, where do I find these hand pumps you talk about? We supply a can of this with all our units. Roads? Another Oxford T4R member huh? I have used the Transflush - it comes in a larger size can, 18oz I think. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hence, it's a good idea to change the fluid at recommended regular or severe-service intervals. Follow the directions for the common "tranny cooler line" flush. I like Valvoline MaxLife motor oil but Toyotas seem to be finicky with non-OEM brands of ATF. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests. 1maniac right. I'm planning this job for first time when the weather breaks here. In hard driving and towing conditions the manual says to drain and fill at 60,000? This is for 1994-1998.5 engine and drivetrain discussion only. 2" OME HD coil lift, BDS shocks, and 1" body-lift. I rebuilt and installed trannies for 4 years. 34" Hankook RT09 MT's on 16" AEV Bridgers. Thanks for everyone's input. :cheers2: How many times would you have to change the fluid to be at all new fluid.Say, if there was water in it? Here is a picture of a magnet from inside the pan at 38k along with the plug. Aftermarket filters won't clean down to the same micron size as magnefine and i wont ever have to drop the pan to replace it. I'm not familiar w/ content of Jeep auto trans pan/capacity as mine is manual and I've been working on too many Toyotas and Mazdas last few years just did my at-home tranny service and B&M cooler install. Question: any thoughts on Valvoline MAX Life ATF which shows specs consistent with the Sienna Type T-IV. The 545RFE holds 14 qts of ATF+4 so you changed about 2/3 of the fluid out. Changing tranny lines. If your not broken, then a regular trans service is fine. shouldn't really need to flush it as there shouldnt be that much foreign material in the trans. Not necessarily a bad method for flushing the transmission, but not the best either. Then swap the cooler pressure/drain hoses and use the transmission to "flush the cooler" with fluid flow in reverse. I had to educate the parts counter guy first about filters and the he called the service manager over to show that there were serviceable filters in the CVT. siennachat.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. Cleaning it out well doesn't solve the problem. At my local dealer, the answer is NO, they do not remove the pan. The J 45096 transmission oil cooling system flush and flow test tool replaces current tool J 35944-A. Pictures are on my thread What is the reasoning behind using a stand-alone pump instead of using the transmission to pump it? So, when someone says "flush" a trans, I think of this. Not sure where you can get it locally you might try a trans shop but a can of cooler flush works well followed by blowing it out with air. You could run a degreaser and water mix through it several times and then rinse it really well. While we were at it, we also dropped the pan and installed a fresh filter, so our transmission should be all set for the next few years of driving. Every time I buy a vehicle with an unknown history, I'll do a full flush using the return line method. Get it clean. Are you going to save the old fluid when you drop the pan and put back in the old before you flush it? JavaScript is disabled. A digital display indicates the ATF oil flow rate in gallons per minute (GPM) along with the amount of ATF oil in the supply vessel, supply vessel ATF oil temperature, machine cycles and the operating mode. I hope its okay to just post the links here. Looks like there are quite a few ways of replacing the fluid. I'd squirt in brake cleaner and follow with compressed air. It will make the new transmission last a whole lot longer, and catches the small particles that will only wash out of the oil cooler when it starts bouncing down the road. and Regional Chapters / Special Events, http://www.lubegard.com/automotive/tler_kleen.html. There was a time when real wheelers supposedly only drove stick. crvownersclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company. After a mad scramble into the house for my spare key I shut it off just at the 2 quart mark. This is a short section that tells a bit on how it works. I have it situated on the exit of the cooler in front of the AC condensor. View unanswered posts | View active topics. Jack of all trades can likely do a respectable job in most instances under moderate conditions, but how do they respond when pushed? And a word of caution, if you use the trans to pump the fluid, roll down a window. The exception being to remove improper fluid. If you get to the point of slipping, no flush, trans fluid change will make it better. My only concern would be with respect to the filters but I don't know the best answer as there are 2 options. To save me some further research, does anyone know if the first service (or any/all) for replacing the fluid on a Gen 5 CRV requires anything more than simply pulling the drain plug, draining the old fluid, cleaning off the drain plug magnet, then refilling the system to the proper level with new fluid? The fluid that came out when I dropped the pan was bright red. Small world! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Somewhere else I read the following suggestion: If you go 100k before you change your fluid, then it would be good to get as much fluid out as possible. wouldn't that solve it? They're near identical prices in most cases, but every so often, you can find the B&Ms from online retailers much cheaper, and sometimes with free shipping. There's no excuse to use aftermarket fluid. Why is everyone concerned with changing their fluid before they need to? Content on crvownersclub.com is generated by its users. Nice writeup. This is the one with the large visible cylinder that inputs new fluid at the same pressure and flow rate the tranny pump generates. After dropping the pan and changing the filter(s), I generally lkook up the total fill amount for the transmission and add about 1/2 that amount to the sump before starting the engine. I'll try to post what and how I did it. What controls shift points besides tps and computer command? By contrast, a number of industry experts from Mobil/Exxon and others have come out in favor of adhering, whenever possible to the specific viscosity curve and friction modifier package called out by the vehicle maker. Isn't it just a cleanable screen and magnets in the pan? Can a full container of New ATf-4 be connected to the other port with another 2 foot extension, so that the fluid can be pulled fom one orifice and drained from the other .. you wouldn't have to refill from the dipstick hole? The fluid coming out the line was clean. Getting my rebuilt trans back this week and I want to flush the lines and tranny cooler of all the old fluid/junk. Have a friend start the engine and you add fluid at the same rate as it comes out. well what about cleaning it out and replacing the trans? I think you misunderstand the procedure. Then I blew out the fluid with air, I believe the rear line is the return. http://lubegard.com/automotive/trans_kooler_kleen.html, http://lifeautomotive.com/Products/ATI2001.asp, Transmission Service - Changing Fluid - Drains and Fill vs flush, Any harm in having a shop flush trans fluid in 62te. You can find OEM on ebay for $75 for a case of Type IV from this seller ". I never dropped the pan but I was having no issues with it despite the condition of the fluid. garage is a little fumey though, 93 SSEi, 95 SLE (supercharged) 97 Buick LeSabre Limited, Comprehensive guide to troubleshooting, rebuilding, and modifying Eaton Superchargers, Mechanical and Maintenance (no chat or performance), http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=4589&Category_Code=tru-cool-hd&Product_Count=1. Current: '15 Sienna Limited Premium (FWD), '14 Subaru Outback, '18 Subaru Forester, '18 Toyota RAV4. The oem is nothing more than a strainer. Manage Preferences - On reverse flushing, must remove one way check valve in many cooler lines. 2016 Obsidian Blue Pearl CR-V EX-L AWD (Rent to Own). The next day I bought more fluid and put in over a litre more to get it up to the warm line on the dipstick. 2) Rinse it with alcohol. It was actually pretty quick and easy to do myself. I watched that video and from what I could see, he did not vent the top jug so the atf couldnt flow out of the jug. And you will never get all of the fluid out of the converter, even the ones with drain plugs, I used to put the whole thing in a parts cleaner and remove the plug and sit there with the hose in it until it tunred from red(or brown if the trans was bad) to green(parts cleaner fluid), this would take about 15 minutes in some cases. Hydraulic fluid is the lifeblood of an automatic transmission, and heat and contamination are the enemies of that precious liquid. myfirstbonnie- what item number is the one you got? I did our 2008 CR-V 5AT via the tube exiting the transmission filter a couple of times. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. After all, how can individual specifications that vary by so much be met by a single product? Its very simpleto change the filter in the pan if you change your own engine oil you can can change the transmission filters. The letter from Valvoline discussed Mercon compatibility (given the out of spec issue), but given the staggering price of a Sienna transmission and the fact that it doesn't hold much fluid, I'm going to use Toyota WS and pay the premium. Terms of Service - You are corect in rear line is return. The auto lock kicked in on mine and I stood there for a second watching the lifeblood running out of my trans with no way to shut it off. Where we're going, we don't need 'roads'. '07 JK 2dr Sahara - auto w/ 4.10's and rear locker. Contact Us - Planning to do a full flush (8years and 88K miles) and have access to a T-TECH ATF flush machine which was one of the first introduced to the industry in the 90's. If you use a different fluid, it will be close but not what the transmission was designed for. Hey. I put roughly 8 litres in dipstick tube and 5 in the pan = 13 litres or 13.73 quarts. About Us - Alternate is to pay about $20 for Mobil 3309 which is supposedly who private labels for Toyota. And 4T60Es are known for running hotter than your 65. so can we stay on topic here. Compared to a $4k transmission, fluid is cheap. If the original was dark brown or black, like many i've done, watch for the color changeit will be almost a direct change form the old to new, then shut off the engine and top off. Cookie Policy - I've heard of this old school flush method but not seen a how to on the Jeep. Terms of Service - 44H. I didn't want to spend the money to take it to a shop with a flush machine. Gen 5 Camaro Tuning, Diagnostics, Dyno results, Hot Rod Power Tour/ Pump Gas Drags/ Drag Week.

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