But I need more! The very slight weight difference suggested otherwise. The Watson and Wasabi batteries look like they are the same battery but with different labels. When I bought my Nikon d610, B&H three in a spare Watson brand en el15. Confirms my findings:My wife and I have both shot FZ200s from 2012 til last year when we bought two FZ300s. I shook a lot of water out of both and dried them for days in the sun. When I tried to remove the battery, I found that it had swollen and it took me about 5 minutes working with it to get it out. Could newer Panasonic BLC12's have less capacity? I hear good things about them. The batteries wont let you do updates. The mitigating factor could be cell quality? I tend to believe it is actually a 950mAh since it's sold at the Duracell Direct site and has a 3 year warranty. This is getting picky, I know. When they indicate 2/3 empty then they are. One difference of note is that the Nikon EN-EL 18a battery weighs 158 grams, a few more than the Wasabi (152g) and Watson (150g). 1 Wasabi was about 35 to 40 dollars shipped, but I got my EZO Power batteries (2 of them) plus a charger for 40 dollars shipped. I think that, with the reports of swollen batteries in mirrorless cameras (bigger power demands), I am not going to take the risk of 3rd party batteries anymore. So it gets expensive replacing all those batteries so you learn to make sure they last as long as possible. Its a no brainer. Charger lets you know when batteries are full. The Nikon battery was 150 bucks why I could get a fifth of 25-year old Glenfarclas for that much. Watson batteries may be the ticket. If you shoot sparingly you might find the Wasabi and Watson batteries to be adequate. But certainly not 6 times as much. Mine did the same thing and they replaced them promptly. Sin3rgys 2019 Toronto Pro Show RX Muscle Coverage, Physique Wars Shoot with Paige Hathaway and Cody Montgomery. Especially having the charger. They also have a good following here on POTN as well it seems (it's where I first found out about them). One thing you get from the Nikon brand battery, besides an expensive Nikon label on the side, is the assurance that your cameras warranty wont be voided if there is battery related damage. I saw positive reviews of the Wasabi batteries and decided to try one of those at a third of the price of the OEM battery. $10 per battery for Wasabi batteries = $10 / 800mAh = .0125 cents per mAh. It's just my opinion that Panasonic is over-charging (no pun intended) for their OEM batteries. When I came back a few weeks later, I reached out to them and they replaced it with a good one. Interestingly it was in the same ziplock (also leaky) with a Nikon EN-EL15. http://www.amazon.co.uk ps&field-keywords=drc+511or japcell what claims that they use Sanyo cells http://japcell.eu -sanyo-celler-kompatibelt. Time will tell and I will update later with a more comprehensive review. What a waste. Back up batteries, if your so much a pro you should be able to afford the batteries. My Gear ListMy flickrMy flickr photos organized by Lens Used. High resolution, weather-sealed bodies and wide dynamic range are all important. I'm writing this review now because I was struck this morning, when I went to take a few quick photos, that I hadn't changed the battery in a long, long time. :'(. John Verm Sherman is one of only 25,000 wildlife and nature photographers based out of Flagstaff, Arizona. Thankfully I live in Vancouver with numerous shipping options to Blaine, so a short hop across the border and I got my Wasabi's for about $32 CAD. Surprisingly, the original Nikon battery is worse than the two Patona batteries. Buy the batteries that are made for your camera. How good a cell is used has a lot to do with the eventual retail price of the battery. I'm not convinced that the products supplied by duracelldirect necessarily originate with the well-known battery manufacturer of similar name now owned by Berkshire Hathaway. It's just my opinion that Panasonic is over-charging (no pun intended) for their OEM batteries. I've encountered that same website as well. After all that shooting Ive only had one complete battery failure and that was from a Watson EN-EL15 that was submerged in water for over an hour (the waterproof ammo can turned out to be less than waterproof). Under those circumstances, I really cant blame the battery for being pissed off and deciding never to work for me again. But, the overall lifespan of the aftermarket battery may be shorter than the OEM batteries. Thanks for that! Good luck. I would be leery of third party batteries that are really inexpensive. The discharge device was either an Accucell6 or SkyRC iMax B6 Mini hobby charger. Having used my Wasabi's here and there, it looks like they perform pretty close to the OEM LP-E6, so if you get something that seems defective, it likely is. When they indicate 2/3 empty then they are. Its too early for me to say if this is true with the EN-EL18s. I wish I knew more about them or other members here had tried them. It's a crazy market out there what with the prices ranging from 6.99 upwards. Two weeks ago the nikon branded one refused to charge, today as I am commenting on this and researching affordable 3rd party, the watson discharged within 20 minutes of shooting. I happen to have a lot of Lithium based batteries I use for camera drones and other lithium polymer batteries. The Nikon Z30 is the company's latest 'creator' focused mirrorless camera, a 21MP APS-C model made to be more vlogging friendly than ever. As well they are properly chipped so the camera display shows how much charge is left and how many shots were taken on the charge, just like with the OEM batteries. To my disappointment I found trusted 3rd party brands like Watson were not working with the FS7 and FS5. Will report back what I find. In this buying guide we've rounded-up several great cameras for shooting landscapes, and recommended the best. I think the cheaper batteries not only have less capacity, but cheaper materials so the cells will deteriorate faster. Reviewed in the United States on February 23, 2014. Finally, bit the bullet and got a Panny batterynever a problem with functional longevity. Mathematically, that would mean I could theoretically end up with 800 shots with live view, but that's not to say the battery indicator is 100% correct, I would expect it to actually be less as the 7D manual indicates around 400 shots with liveview on, 800+ without. The $52.00 BLC12 is a cash cow for them. Which means that Panasonic must be charging a premium for something, could it be the branding? Thread started 15 Jun 2005 (Wednesday) 16:45, CANON 6D + BG-E13 / 24-105 F4 L / 50mm 1.8 / Nikon D7000 / 35mm 1.8, 50D, Rebel XT, EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, 28-135 IS,430EX, AT858, Everything you want to know about aftermarket batteries for Canon DSLR's, http://www.amazon.com 8-1&keywords=wasabi+lp-e6, Everything you wanted to know about aftermarket batteries, http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnebersole/sets/, http://www.amazon.co.uk ps&field-keywords=drc+511, http://japcell.eu -sanyo-celler-kompatibelt. Wasabi Power Battery (2-Pack) and Charger for Canon LP-E8 and Canon Wasabi Power Battery (2-Pack) and Charger for Canon LP-E8 and Canon EOS 550D, EOS 600D, EOS 700D, EOS Rebel T2i, EOS Rebel T3i, EOS Rebel T4i, EOS Rebel T5i, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon. These Wasabi Power batteries are great! Fuji X-E2 | 18-55 | 23 | Nikon 60mm AF-D Macro | 55-250 |YN-560EXIIx2 | YN-565EX | YN-622C | YN-622C-TX. The dot.foto BLG10 replacements thatI bought 20 months ago cost 1/6 the Panny price (if you buy two of them) and yet the Panny battery doesn't take six times as many pictures, or anything like six times. I bought these batteries with my Canon Rebel T5i three years ago. This often resulted in our cams shutting down on us in the middle of a take. Is it worth screwing up your cameras? Actually I think the Panasonic battery gives you less than what you pay for. Will update again at the end of the wedding season, see how they survive heavy continued use. Because it has a builtin 120Vac plug that swivels out i do not need to carry long power cord like the one used by the Canon charger that came with the camera. It will be used in the Panasonic Lumex GX8 camera. The cheep battery will work, but its not warranted. All the BLC12 batteries do still indicate capacity left properly. Have you heard of any, and were there any significant differences? Not sure what Camera brand you own, but it has been highly suggested to me that you should Only use OEM batteries in the Camera brand you own, Nikon Camera use Nikon Batteries, Canon Camera use Canon batteries, etc. That doesn't mean all batteries are created equal and I only tested one Panasonic LUMIX battery so the test result has to be taken in that context. This thread helped me a lot in making a sound decision. I've bought this set 3 times since 2012, and I continue to be impressed. For ages Ive heeded the warnings from camera manufacturers that inserting non-OEM batteries into my camera could make the camera explode or at the very least give it a nasty case of shingles. I bought a "counterfiet" LP-E6 from a Chinese supplier online that looked EXACTLY like the real thing (had to mark it to keep it seperate from the "real" ones) for $20 (including shipping from China) and it came with the box and contents not assembled. Whats the best camera for around $2000? Has anyone got any links to where they have purchased from in the uk. After what I estimate to be just under an hour of liveview with maybe 20-30 minutes of shoot time, I was down to 20%. Not cost effective to bother sending just 1 battery back, so simply disposed of. There are hundreds of possibilities about the cause, and maybe one of it was the battery. Actually, these are not even close. Fortunately I had a bunch more batteries so I could keep shooting for the entire 200-mile raft adventure. It also quickly discharged. I also bought a third FZ200 very cheap in 2016 as a backup cam. The old adage, "You get what you pay for" seems to stand the test of time. DJI has a new gimbal, and it's compatible with some of the revolutionary accessories from the Ronin 4D. My Watson EN-EL15 bit the dust as described below (all my fault). Other than the 2g weight difference and the labels the Watson and Wasabi look identical they have the same case. In my opinion, nikon, watson & wasabi have roughly the same charge life and overall life that it just makes more sense to go 3rd party. I got these into Toronto without issue, despite the April 1st ban on shipping batteries by air. I took a chance and ordered one. What I generally found in testing is that these replacements were about 63% the capacity of the OEM battery. They served their purpose, so I bought two more. You most definitely get what you pay for when it comes to batteries. I like the compact wall charger better than the OEM charger - one piece rather than 2 for the OEM product makes it easy for travel and no risk of the parts getting separated. I also bought a third FZ200 very cheap in 2016 as a backup cam. Heres a Watson (black label, light green cells) and Wasabi (white labels dark green cells) EN-EL15 broken open. In this buying guide weve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing around $2000 and recommended the best. I noticed most of your study, which seems very thorough, AND encouraging, did not distinguish between experiences of Canon and Nikon users. That's roughly 80% of the capacity of the $52.00 Panasonic battery. Once back home, I store them in my camera bag, and have been able to pull them out and pop them in the camera to take unplanned shots, and their charge is still full or at least 3/4 full after having sat in the bag for over a month or two without use! I bought a Watson branded battery from B&H for my FZ1000 and its life seems to be similar than my Panasonic branded battery. The circuit boards are identical, but the actual cells are indeed different. Camera Batteries for Panasonic LUMIX Wasabi Power, 1 product ratings - Wasabi Power Battery (2-Pack) and Charger for Nikon EN-EL20, EN-EL20a, 4 product ratings - Lot Of Two Wasabi Power Battery for Panasonic BTR-BCK7-JWP. B&H is closed until Oct 23rd. I purchased 3 Kapaxen En el14a batteries 2 years ago ( BP-ENEL14-K-NK). Right now I am still using one battery that I got when I bought the body. In addition to the weight differences, the mAh rating of the batteries differs. The batteries have been phenomenal. Canon's high end APS-C mirrorless camera has plenty of compelling features, but is it worth the price? Only my original battery that came with my 5DII has ceased holding charges. Initial tests show some playing around with liveview on and playing with settings (5 minutes of LCD screen time), 40 shutters with Live View on, allowing the screen to turn back on between shots ended up with an indicated 95% battery left. I do mostly video which is a battery killer and having two more on the side is just perfect. But is it enough to outclass the competition? Charge times are just as quick and they seem to register battery life and everything. I used them infrequently, and stored them with their covers outside the camera, in the camera bag, in a warm, dry area. Sure. I'm wondering if maybe they "vet" their battery suppliers better so as to ensure better quality batteries? If you want to test another batt, IMHO this should be the one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IR0YLZU/?coliid=I1UW1OF38XJTTF&colid=3PUXY8YWMEWAE&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it, https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMW-BLC12-Lithium-Ion-Battery-Lumix%C2%AE/dp/B004KDVNZO/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=panasonic+dmc+12&qid=1571429141&sr=8-8. I got them as an alternative to the pricey Canon brand battery for my t3i camera. Find out what it offers and what we think so far. 5D MK 11, 24 - 105 L, 100mm 2.8 Macro, 580 EX Mk II, 70 - 200mm 2.8 L IS usm, 350D with Lense Kit. Just curious if anyone had to send a body in for repair because of this.Cheers! Is this the gimbal to get? I think the cheaper batteries not only have less capacity, but cheaper materials so the cells will deteriorate faster. The .ca site is pretty much useless imo. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. This often resulted in our cams shutting down on us in the middle of a take. All things considered, a charger + 2 batteries for the EZO power isn't a terrible deal, but the Wasabi are probably the best non OEM alternative from my experience. Disabling it will result in some disabled or missing features. Some third party manufacturers use better quality cells than others. I believe that when buying these batteries, it is the luck of the draw that will get you one that lasts an appropriate amount of time. I'll get one and test it. For the EN-EL18s it goes like this: Nikon (EN-EL18a) 2500 mAh, Watson 2600 mAh, and Wasabi 2800 mAh. This is a great value. Watson batteries may be the ticket. Again, I had great difficulty removing the battery, this time having to resort to a pair of ice tongs when I got home. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. That said, I agree. In fact, lithium Ion batteries have been known to have sand added inside to increase weight just for the purpose of appearing better quality. Some of the bigger concerns about using third party batteries are: All batteries are not created equal. This is no guarantee that a future update might not knock them out. I am lucky if I can get 15 minutes of power per charge. My test rig consisted of a converted BLC12 charger modified to act only as a cradle for holding the batteries and for connecting the discharge device. - New Years Resolution - Take at least a picture a day!! No issues from me.Initial review of EZO Power LP-E6 batteries for my 7D. However, you can get about 65% of the capacity for a much reduced price. Ive been using the Wasabis for a year and the Watsons for 7 months. The Wasabi is still available on Amazon and you can get them directly from Bluenook which also ships from the US. I then replaced it with a second Kapaxen battery, which was fully charged. I'm in the market for needing a second battery for the 5d mark ii. They are advertised at 1200mAh and the one I tested was VERY close to that. Most modern cameras will shoot video to one degree or another, but these are the ones wed look at if you plan to shoot some video alongside your photos. It also communicates if it is an OEM battery or not. First profound testing I've seen on here. That sums up my experience with third party batteries, but because third party battery horror stories abound out there, I thought it would be more informative for our readers if we were to conduct a poll of their battery experiences rather than to just rely on my experiences with a handful of samples. This communicates charge info to the camera. This page works best with JavaScript. GOOD BP-U60 @ 7800mAh With the EN-EL15s, the Nikon wins at cost per shot over the lifetime of the battery. Since giving Wasabi and Watson batteries a chance, Ive shot over 100000 exposures so theyve been charged and discharged a lot. So you wouldn't get 6 times the photos or video, but only about slightly less than twice, to two thirds as much. It may be just a failure, but if its a Lithium Ion batterythere is a danger of fire. BTW I bought, tested and quickly returned a Watson a few years back. If they refuse to be charged then the circuit is probably bad. Try cleaning the contacts with a cue tip and rubbing alcohol. Wasabi, Kastar and other aftermarket batteries, If you believe there are incorrect tags, please send us this post using our, Re: Wasabi, Kastar and other aftermarket batteries. I keep both Brands fully charged. I think you're right. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. I use OEM Nikon batteries, that come with the camera. Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more and all is free. Try a Watson Brand, if available for your camera. This is an old thread and I'm wondering what the current favorite after-matket replacement battery is for the LPE6N? I only tested BLC12 batteries, but it's likely that the OEM BLG10's vs aftermarket BLG10's are similar in performance and capacity. All the BLC12 batteries do still indicate capacity left properly. I have Canon 550D and suddenly just dead without any sign. Would you run cheep oil in your Jag? Impact Multiboom Light Stand and Reflector Holder Review, Pre-Order Links: Nikon Z50, New Lenses, Battery Pack, Swelling causing difficulty inserting or removing, Incompatibility with camera and/or OEM charger. The Sony BP-U30 realistically gets 1h 45m of use and the GOOD brand gets me 4-4.5 hours. Lets think about this. I have bought several types of aftermarket batteries and the only issue I've ever had was with a charger/2-battery set I bought for less than $15 and the batteries don't communicate with the camera, but they power it. The Nikon batter is empty in a much faster time (and, yey, I use a brand-new Nikon battery, shipped with the camera from Amazon). I'm just a rank amateur compared to you guys, but I have bought a few after market batteries (as recommended by photo forums) to save money. https://www.duracelldirect.com/pno/drpblc12-us.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=DRPBLC12-US&adtype=pla&keyword=&target=405570064251&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwuvA4oSm5QIVErvsCh1KjAcsEAQYBCABEgIPL_D_BwE. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. I am very impressed with how long the batteries hold a charge. The BLG10 OEM is advertised at 1025mAh. Great Value On Super Versatile Batterys, Charger And Adapters, Reviewed in the United States on November 13, 2018. And my replacement battery, if needed is a Watson. In 2012 he was awarded Flagstaff Photography Centers Emerging Artist of the Year award. CanonCameraFan,Thanks for the feedback. Perfect spare batteries to have so that I can keep filming/taking pictures. Ive read some horror stories as well as comments from people who have not had problems. I highly recommend these! I bought this item mainly for the batteries but the charger is a nice bonus that works well. I love the convenience of the wall plug being right there. I decided I would like a few backup batteries and read many reviews on Amazon, B&H Photo, ebay etc. Other than reduced capacity over age, my experience with Wasabi and Watson batteries has been positive. So off I went to Amazon, B&H, ebay and ordered several sets of aftermarket batteries. These dont even come close to being as good as Canon batteries. The chargers feature a built-in two-prong adapter for US outlets and others in the 100-240V range. Shedding some light on the sources of noise, Canon EOS R7 sample gallery (DPReview TV), Autel EVO Nano+ review: a solid sub-250g drone that lacks the polish of competing models, DPReview TV: Laowa 12-24mm F5.6 C-Dreamer Review, Best cameras for landscape photography in 2021, Best video cameras for photographers in 2022, *** New Wildlife thread starting 31st July 2022***, **MASTER of ALL TRADES: FZ2000 Review part 2**, FZ1000 MkII: Welcome To The Sunflower Bar. There seems to be a problem serving the request at this time, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}, Wasabi Power Battery for Panasonic Dmw-bcm13 Dmw-bcm13pp, Wasabi Power Battery (2-Pack) and Charger for Nikon EN-EL20 EN-EL20a. The Nikon EN-EL15 weighs 86g, the Watson weighs 75g and the Wasabi weighs 73g. With no luck on eBay, BH or Adorama I looked to Amazon. I've purchased a variety of batteries from Wasabi Power and have not been disappointed after years of use. What's odd to me is that a truly comparable alternative isn't available.or is it? I bought these for my Canon T5i. The life of these batteries is a bit pathetic. From lowest to highest mAh for the EN-EL15s it goes like this: Watson 1800 mAh, Nikon 1900 mAh, and Wasabi 2000 mAh. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. This battery had also swollen. The funny thing is my old d5100 has the same two original nikon branded batteries and they are still going strong. Thank You, CANON 6D + BG-E13 / 24-105 F4 L / 50mm 1.8 / Nikon D7000 / 35mm 1.8 flickr, Im not familiar with that brand but all batteries vary in voltage from they are freshly charged and discharged. And before the cam shuts down they give the red blinking warning signal for quite a long time.The third party batteries of different brand all behaved the same in that they would indicate full capacity until they are an estimated 95% empty and then the indicators are racing down finishing with a very short red warning period that hardly lets you finish what you are at. ^ I hear you on that amazon.ca complaint. I believe that when buying these batteries, it is the luck of the draw that will get you one that lasts an appropriate amount of time. All cams were bought used with BLC12.We are still using all of the BLC12 batteries and I wouldn't be able to tell which are the oldest ones amongst them by perceived capacity.During the same period we bought three different aftermarket batteries of which two of them have died and the one remaining is now so low in capacity that we stopped using it. The choice ultimately is entirely yours. I used them on a single trip to Moab. The battery never took charge. But what can we do? I havent had issues charging the Wasabi and Watson batteries in the Nikon chargers. And as always, ymmv. 7D / Canon 15-85mm / Canon 70-300mm USM / Canon 50mm 1.8 II / Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro / 430EX II / Macro LED Flash Ring / Rode VideoMic Pro / Zoom H1FlickrMy Youtube Comedy Channel. However, half a year later the OEMs are showing their superiority. At the time of writing, one of my Wasabi EN-EL15s will only charge up to 22%, the other Wasabi makes it to 65%. The Nikon actually survived and continued working. My stuffhttp://1x.com/member/chauncey43, has anyone experience with duracell? Getting in my first fitness magazine publication! I found 2 brands that had positive ratings and people were reporting compatibility with the FS5 and FS7. Another reason I would consider third party batteries is if you are going on the trip of a lifetime and need a bunch of spare capacity because you wont be able to recharge during the trip. The specs were identical and I had seved it to my list so here's the link. Hi, this battery has been charged twice in the past, but suddenly will not take a charge either from a Wasabi charger or a Pentax charger. The things you do for yourself die with you, the things you do for others live forever.A man's worth should be judged, not when he basks in the sun, but how he faces the storm. I knew the included OEM SOny BP-U30 battery wasnt adequate(130min claim from Sony) wouldnt be adequate, so I bought a generic Chinese brand from eBay for $80USD called GOOD(claimed 7800mAh capacity).
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