Here are the notes Renee provided us on archival mounting strips and working with heavy cotton papers. If its not flat, get a deroller. The self-adhesive hinging tape works fantastic. You get a really heavy cotton paper, and what happens is especially the trailing edge as the papers fed through the printer, obviously theres rollers that move it through. That youll have to use like a dry or cold mount to do that. Slip the new one in. Just such a cool learning experience, and, like I said, so cool to know that companies are out there that really, really care about the products that theyre putting out. And thats really what is recommended by, you know, museum staff and art experts. Under the maintenance tab in the menu there, for this printer there is a custom settings menu button. Theres a couple of super easy ways you can do that. Theres a pad and it keeps the printhead from drying out. Renee suggests the unscented Swiffer Duster to remove fibers before printing a tip she picked up from Jon Cone. Ill get into that in a second, but if youre using those strips, I would say be sure that adhesive portion you want it to be up against the edge of the print, and then the polyester portion will, you know, cover the edge, or the border. Then you have your framed work. I actually started right when Breathing Color began their move from Gardena, California to where we currently reside, which is in Austin, Texas. So all of the inventory I had in the bins thats expensive mat board. Pigment inks are the gold standard if youre concerned about print permanence and longevity and these values, as to how long a print is going to last, basically, theres all kinds of claims from manufacturers I read an article where a company was reviewing this printer, and the product manager from Canon was saying, Oh, these dyes are special and theyre going to last 300 years! And I was like, 300 years? They have alpha cellulose, which is pigment and acid-free, and then the all-cotton conservation board. Super cost effective as well. But, for instance, there is one company whom I will not name, that for their cotton paper, says Pick the matte photo paper media setting. I mean, the OEM they make marketing claims to the contrary it can do everything, you know, slice and dice, make your sandwich, whatever. In a minute, Im going to be joined by Renee Besta to talk about a few issues listeners have had with fine art papers and mounting photo papers, but first I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about myself as the host of this show and also AskBC and who Breathing Color is. Renee: It is a little extreme, but that just shows you much I dont and I know theres people that love doing that, you know. Hopefully some of those recommendations help her out. So, it doesnt really matr. Renee: Thats what I was going to say. There is a rear-feed, but you can stack paper in and then with this printer theres a manual feed through the rear. I have a feeling its not a Canon paper. Justin: [Laughs] Yeah, are you making money off this? That distance is critical. And Im wondering, how are his nozzle checks coming out, and is the color good on the print? So these work great. Want to dive deeper into the subjects discussed in this episode? Like one on each end. Print longevity. Justin: Hey Renee, thanks for joining the show today, its great to have you back here again in 2016, finally, for our first episode of 2016, actually. And you want to be sure when youre mounting it I cant really tell because shes saying shes seen some that are dry mounted. So, but if its a third party paper, the media type you selected is important, and weve gone over this before both in articles and podcasts on where to find this information on the Breathing Color website. That material can fall off, the dried ink, and you just have this residue on there over time. Just open iTunes, go to the store, search for AskBC, and click Leave a Review on the show page. Justin: Yeah they seem pretty cost effective. Thank you so much and well talk to you soon. You know, head strikes are very dangerous, they can completely ruin your print head or damage it severely. And Ill discuss advantages and disadvantages of different mounting types in a minute. So, today were going to be helping out a couple of folks who are having trouble with mounting, and another guy who has some issues with some head strikes on a small format Canon printer. Or they get dislodged later, same thing can happen on a subsequent print, and you can either get fully clogged or partially clogged nozzles due to the fibers. Renee: Some of these get up to like you have Elegance Velvet, thats a 23mil paper. Can You Print on Canvas With an Inkjet Printer? And whats most important that we talk about many times is, on a Canon, what we call the head height or the Platen gap on the Epson, and thats the distance between the bottom of the printhead and the surface of the paper. What do you think Marys problem is here? Carrie Servos Coats Allure Metal Prints with ArtResin Epoxy, Removable mounting practices save you money, An unexpected tool to remove particles and fibers from prints on cotton paper, The dangers of leaving particles on paper before printing, Head height issues when printing on thick papers, For conservation-grade mats and mounting and framing supplies, Renee recommends, The mylar strips mentioned in the episode are available for purchase, For holding prints in place while mounting and matting them, check out the, For more on how to configure your printer settings to use third party papers, youll definitely want to take a close look at Renees. Today were going to be talking to professional printmaker Renee Besta about mounting and printing on special paper types. And its actually great! Again, when third party paper companies like Breathing Color, could be anyone, make a profile for their paper, they will tell you what media type to select. Well, that would definitely be any heavy cotton paper. Thats a lot cheaper than buying the mat from them. They come in a box of sixty and theyre four-inches long you just cut them as you need them. That should be reserved, you know, for items with little perspective long-term value. But this Canon user manual states that for that manual feed tray itll take up to a 23mil paper. But thats what Id say for that. THink of them sort of like on your car, so as the printhead goes back into place to be parked, blades wipe off the bottom, thats to get rid of excess ink, then it gets parked on the capping station, those blades need to be cleaned too. If youve ever seen if youve put your finger over the end of a faucet, how the water can spray straight in your face. So this is just the coolest method ever. Theyre great. But basically, the removable method is best for conservation purposes, and I know Ill probably get a lot of flack Oh now, I still dry mount. I mean, framer shops love their dry mounts. So examine the print closely before putting those mounting strips in place. But, if you have white cotton fibers, or dried ink on the bottom of the printhead, thats going to end up on that capping station, so the next time the printhead goes it picks some more stuff up and drags it across the next print. What you have to remember is that by permanently sticking something to something else, youre going to ultimately diminish its value. Its going to do much more than cause streaks. These fibers can get dislodged from the print head and drag across the surface of the print leaving marks as you see. You may want to do two inch strips. These guys are fantastic to work with, we easily have the most knowledgeable technical support staff that Ive ever worked with in the industry. I see a lot of people online still doing either cold mounting or dry mounting which we used in the dark room days. Well, the option is fantastic to be able to remove a print from the mat. Justin: I dont understand their decision on that either, because its, you know, the printers price range is so low that it makes sense to save a hundred dollars or something just to get those dye based inks, its not like youre saving a bunch of money. That doesnt work. If youre trying to print up to the very, very, very edge, you know, on a cotton paper, thats problematic. Also, Lineco makes a great self-adhesive linen hinging tape. But the mat is expensive. So thats another thing to consider. Or, you know, the art supplies stores like Dick Blicks and others. Theres a difference between a nozzle thats completely clogged, and one that can be partially clogged. So, why does that matter? How does that work? But it really does hold the print in place, and it leaves it with enough room to breathe, you just dont want to be pushing it. So theres other ways besides the mylar strips. Renee: Yeah, its pretty common. And (2) I like this type of paper, but find it very difficult to remove paper fibers and paper dust from its surface. Well, what does that mean? And because I use these strips, thank goodness, they just pop right out. Download this episodes transcription below: Or, to view a web version of the transcript: Hey guys, this is your host Justin. So you really should consider how thick do you want to go? Well be doing our best to release weekly episodes of AskBC for you throughout the year featuring your favorite guest experts as well as hopefully introducing you to a few new ones. Its really cool, I read his blogs and hes got great articles on his website. I used to buy some from LightImpressions, which is no longer in business, but the strips work great. So Ive been with Breathing Color for about three years now. Have some feedback for us? If its glossy luster, metallic, pretty easy, because basically its a pretty thin paper. But I dont recommend dry or cold mounting because its best to not place adhesives in contact with the print. And again, I dont want to get into it too much, its all in the article that I wrote, but thats where people run into problems. It depends on the weight of the paper. So I would let the print first of all dry for at least 24 hours before attempting to mount it. So it gets deposited because it gets dislodged. But thats another way to do it. Its 2 emails a week and you can unsubscribe at any time. So this is the issue here theyre making your ICC profile, and it has to be based on a media type its got to do with the ink throttling and other things, but theyre trying to subvert what Canon put there to begin with. But the great part is, its conservation-board attached to archival polyester, and its two-ply in its thickness. Missed ya! For more free episodes of #AskBC, check out the full archive! Just so fantastic to be able to bring that type of experience to the table and share it with people that have similar interests and start up these conversations, which are just so content-rich, and so important, you know. Every printer is different of course and has all these strange settings in the driver menu. So lets talk about this printer a little bit. So thats important. And then make sure the window mat just covers the white space. Head height problems, and how to get rid of those pesky fiber particles. Renee: So that should be pretty simple. And address these things. So in other words, you go to standard art supply stores and youve got your 8x10s, your 1114, etcetera. But Amazon has them. Breathing Color were a great company. Ill try to send some pictures to explain it. Lets just say, you know, I need the mat to mount and frame a different image. Ive tried everything under the sun for mounting prints and this is just the best thing because nothing touches the print itself, which is the best method to use. Dont forget to leave your business or website name so that we can plug it on the air. But, you know, the head strikes really are dangerous because it can also knock your printhead out of alignment and ruin it. You can find out more about her and check out her awesome photography by visiting renmarphoto.com. So, question is, I presume hes using the manual feed tray not the single sheet tray. And the bottom of that has adhesive and you peel a sticker away. Just kind of , its strange decision on their part I think. He could buy Hahnemuhle, he could be buying Canson or Ilford paper, I have no concept. Maybe I want to print it on a different paper. And I know theres going to be, again, people that will argue that point. If its third party. So we go through a lot of trouble to have the best printers, inks, profiles, papers I dont want any adhesive in contact and then its permanently stuck. Its kind of hidden at the bottom right. But the problem is, once thats in a review, that becomes part of the common thought and still no matter what still, inkjet-based dye inks they do have more longevity than the type of dyes that are used in your chromogenic prints. I did post an article last year on how to configure printer settings for third party papers, which talks about how to set a media type and then you may have to go in and manually widen the platen gap or head height. I dont know its weight or thickness. So I dont know how shes cutting them their boxes I think they have the four inch are the most common. Theres a number of things you can do to flatten it. Well, somebody orders something else, I can take that mat, open it up and pop that print right out and pop another one in. If you click on that, you get another window and theres an option that says, Prevent paper abrasion.. Now that is done to minimize possible head strikes at the beginning and end of the print. For instance, I had material left-over when I left my local gallery here in Paso Robles its Studios on the Park. And Ive just had wonderful success with them, but you may also if youre using the mylar not be using enough strips, or strips that are long enough on each side of the print. So thats a whole different technique than using a window mat and having the image covered up to the border or the actual edge of the image. Ive seen some dry mounted and they look mottled. I have tried using only mylar tabs, but then the print does not lie flat. But, anyway, I invite Bob to answer my questions on Disqus like what paper was this, how thick is it, is it a Canon paper? Im excited to do that on this next episode. So the Swiffer, get a Swiffer Duster. The idea is that the bigger the show gets, the more resources and experts we can bring to it for you guys. But the more you have fibers and the more you have extra ink due to your head height or platen gap not being properly set, its too close, those will get contaminated and cause subsequent problems. Thats for reasons I dont want to get into with dyed couplers and things like that, but nonetheless theres no comparison to pigment inks. The same types of problems two of our listeners recently had, actually. And sometimes people will, lets just say, you want to make a 1218 print and youre using a 1319 paper. So if you have an ICC profile and an OEM paper, thats going to be set automatically for the paper. With archival-quality mounting strips, no adhesive touches the print itself meaning when you or your customer wants to swap mats, youre not out of luck. The top piece of see-through archival polyester, and half of it is attached to actual conservation board, like mat board. Renee: So, you basically, what we will be talking about next with printer maintenance, what people also are probably not aware of unless theyre opening the cover and trying to do some routine maintenance you can eventually get your capping station contaminated with this material. Renee: I dont think so in the real world, I dont know where they came from. Justin: Yep, thats pretty common for third party papers. But again, if its third party and youre using a different media setting, it will not configure the head height properly. And well talk a little bit about what that can do. What happens if you have not increased that gap for a fine art cotton paper. We transcribe all of our shows for these reasons! So thats pretty thick. Because especially the trailing edge, and when hes talking about the leading edge of the paper. Weve talked about this before in other podcasts the need to allow the print to outgas in our prior episode. I use products from Lineco you may be familiar with those. Just depends on whether or not you want to show the fullyou know, like if you have a fancy paper with the deckled edge, youre going to want to show the edge. Theres a float method the backing board shows through the window mat, and you can just see the print it kind of looks like its floating. I think maybe the print is either not dry, or shes pressing the strips, like I said, to close against the edge of the print that may cause a little bending. There is a good reason why thats going to look mottled. Or categories. Have you ever had this problem where youre cursing, the print comes out, it looks perfect, it gets to the very, very, very end and Boom youve got this issue or streak on it. Not the standard thing youre going to find at ToysRUs or something. Love the show? First, leave us a review on iTunes! If you havent checked it out yet, the blog is where our industry experts post in-depth written articles on things like printmaking and photography. And then of course that will affect wiper blades, so thats something else cleaning capping stations well be talking about with the routine printer maintenance. Ill send some pictures in the show notes so people will understand if they havent seen these. I can just flip one open and take a quick shot, and Ill include it in the shownotes as to what it looks like. Its always recommended to take the leading edge and slightly and carefully bend it upwards in the opposite direction so that when its fed in youre not going to get a paper skew error. So if youre using these mylar strips and what they basically areLineco is this great company in Massachusetts as I mentioned. This is not an option on even 17 models like the venerable Epson 3880 or even the newer SureColor P800, the P600 you dont get that. And again, this all goes into what I said at the beginning. So, like I said, this is our first episode of 2016, and Im excited to get back to answering your printmaking questions. The first question comes from Mary Alice Valvoda from MavZPixPhotoRestoration.com. So I went out and said, Hot dang! and got some of those and it works wonders. I usually put two on each dimension for most prints. The blog is really easy to access, just go to breathingcolor.com/blog to check it out. You can still see, you know, white around the image. Theres three different grades they do have an inexpensive grade. Renee: Yeah I hope thats helpful for her. The p800, you have the option to add that on. But it could be trying to subvert, based on the media type, this size and margin constraints. And I thought, What? The glass breaks on the frame. If you have that to hold it in place so that the print is flat, thats what I do. I have certainly done that mounted all kinds of papers. You know, the metallic papers always pretty thin. Please help!. That, to me, is where I start to see the print maybe bending a little, so i dont really like to use them. Justin: Right. Thanks for listening! So, really cool to see a company put that kind of effort into things like, you know, print quality and print permanence. Your reviews help us improve the show, and increase our visibility on the iTunes podcast charts. Theyre not expensive, but I love those strips. But, when youre trying to use a window mat, or what they call an over-mat, you want to be sure the print is weighted down with something. They have sets with the backing board and the pre-cut window mat. Been dying to get another episode on the books, so Im glad were finally here today. I love it. So lets just say Ive got stuff Ive already got mounted, or maybe mounted and framed. But these are expensive. It has very archival-quality, or, I would say conservation-quality materials, and they have these great, clear polyester strips and theyre basically come in a box theyre about four inches long, so its clear archival polyester, and its attached to two-ply conservation board with an adhesive backing, and you can cut them to size as you need. Theyre set specifically to hold a print in place so you can position it, pull down the over-mat, and have it perfectly centered the way that you want it. I get mine from a company called Readymat here in California mainly because its one of the few companies that make window mats with pre-cut openings that are absolutely perfect for this 3:2 aspect ratio, which is the standard ratio for a digital SLR. But one thing that may really help him I wanted to point out I did download the manual for this printer. And Ill get into that in a bit. Or perhaps I edited my image did something a little different, I want to reprint it. You can upgrade to the Pro-10 or whatever and its slightly more expensive and it comes with the pigment inks. Pop it right back in, youre done. I hope you enjoyed my discussion with Renee Besta. But, first of all, in terms of why the prints not lying flat before I get into the meat of ityou know, the prints have to fully dry before you mount so that could be causing the print to curl or not lie flat especially if shes in a humid environment. And if youre using roll paper and she didnt say whether these are sheets or coming off a roll you may want to invest in a device such as the D Roller (that we did talk about in prior podcasts). Yeah, it shouldnt be very difficult. We do this podcast to help you guys become better printmakers at the end of the day, as well as have some fun troubleshooting the kinds of unique problems youre bound to run into as an artist, printer, or photographer, whatever you might be into. So this way you can just pop that print right out. Hi everyone and welcome to our first episode of 2016! Whether its fine art cotton or metallic, and used those mylar tabs, and Ill talk about that in a little bit. So thats where youre getting the head strike. I could be completely off, but just the impression I get since hes having these strike problems. For instance, you remember last year when you posted an article on the 3880 I think you did a podcast on that as well, but there was an article on how to feed canvas into the back the manual-feed mechanism on the 3880 by using a leader strip because its not meant for that. This is why the question is so important which paper is he using. And I also want to talk about what that will do over time to the printhead and other printer parts. So, anyway, I have some questions I wish Bob had given a little more details. That is where the printhead is parked on the right side of the printer. So that can lead to banding, it can also lead to nozzle deflection. This one comes from Bob Belas from Bob Belas Photography. The left and the right arent so important. And basically, on a final note, I would just recommend that people stay away from printers with dye inks, and quite frankly Im really surprised this printer came out in 2012, and Im really surprised Canon was still releasing printers with dye inks. Renee: Its because youre not for one thing, theres not enough white border. So then your color is going to be off, you can have spraying on the print, all kinds of issues. I would recommend a 17 minimum because youre going to have cheaper costs for ink, be able to take more papers that will have other features the 13 do not. Anything can happen. And if you want to be the first to know when we release new content, hit that button on the sidebar that says Subscribe Now and youll be added to our mailing list and receive our new content the moment its published. It isnt gonna scuff your print, and it, via electrostatic attraction, it removes those cotton fibers. I dont mean to be a commercial here. Its permanent. Justin: Yeah, its always interesting to get peoples feedback on the show notes page on the comments. Justin: [laughs] That seems a little extreme.

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